S4 E16 – Getting Smarter with America’s Rich Dad

In our Season 4 Finale episode, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro meet with Robert Kiyosaki, investor, entrepreneur, educator and author of the #1 best selling personal finance books of all time, Rich Dad Poor Dad. Kiyosaki has challenged and changed the way tens of millions of people around the world think about money and is arguably one of the most influential authors worldwide when it comes to investing and pursuing financial independence.

Robert Kiyosaki has been a long time inspiration and mentor for Carmen. We were very excited to have him join us to talk about his perspective when it comes to the market, investing, real estate, and constantly getting smarter. He shares that there is no risk-free investment, and constantly educating oneself is the best remedy to decreasing risk when investing. This episode offers an informative and fresh take on achieving success for novice and experienced investors alike.

Read the Full Episode Below

Getting Smarter with America’s Rich Dad, Robert Kiyosaki S4 E16 


(Note: This transcript has been modified for clarity purposes)

Carmen: Hi, I’m Carmen, this is Jordan. Welcome to 30 Minutes to Wealth.

Jordan: The show that teaches you how to build wealth through real estate. Today we are very excited to welcome a very special guest who has a best-selling book that is arguably one of the most influential and important real estate books worldwide. 

Carmen: I love this person, he’s been my icon for many many years. Robert Kiyosaki is going to be on our show today to provide his insight in real estate. You need to see this, don’t go away, we’ll be right back. 


Jordan: Hi, I am Jordan and this is Carmen. Welcome back to 30 Minutes to Wealth. Today we are welcoming a very special guest, Robert Kiyosaki, on the show. Robert, thank you so much for being here today.

Carmen: Thank you

Robert: Oh thank you, it’s nice, I’ve never spoke to a mother-daughter team before, it’s kind of interesting 

Jordan: I love it.

Carmen: Jordan was born and raised in the real estate world. 

Jordan: It’s true.

Carmen: And I am thrilled to have you here personally because you’re a great inspiration to me. You don’t know it but I went to an event in New York City and you were there with Donald Trump. I don’t know how many years ago that was about 15 years ago I think. 

Robert: Yeah, the Javits Center.

Carmen: Yes and I met you there, we took pictures together, you probably had a million people there but-and you really inspired me with your story about you know all these courses and people going to these investment training companies and complaining and being negative about it and your spin on it was don’t think about the negatives just-it gave you that kick in the butt to do something and make it happen. That was a really awesome day for me and I read your book and you signed many of them so that was really great. And from there on in, I mean I’ve been investing since I was 18 in real estate and I absolutely love it. But how did you get started, how did all of this come to be? 

Robert: Uh, the story of “Rich Dad, Poor Dad” is a true story. You know my poor dad has a PhD from Stanford and Northwestern University of Chicago and PhD stands for ‘Poor, Helpless, and Desperate’ and we learn nothing about money at school. So I was about 10 years old, growing up in Hawaii, I kept asking my teacher: when do we learn about money? And my teacher was a church lady like on Saturday Night Live “The love of money is the road of all evil”

Carmen and Jordan: (Laughter)

Robert: I am 10 years old and I am going…maybe evil to you lady but I want some money and that’s how it kind of started. So that’s when I went to find my rich dad. My rich dad was my best friend’s father in this little town called Hilo, Hawaii. This town is the most southern in the United States, further south than Miami. And so, we’re in a little hick town and that is when I went to see my rich dad and I said I want to learn about money and the way he taught us was by playing monopoly and so we all know about formulas for greenhouses red hotel. So today, I own a massive-I have about eight thousand rental units and several hotels, I’m in commercial real estate, I have businesses but I’m basically a capitalist

Carmen: Yeah

Robert: And I don’t trust my government, I don’t trust the Fed, but I did fight for America. I’m a US marine, I was a pilot, but I fought in Vietnam twice. I do fight for freedoms. I don’t care if you’re a communist or a Marxist or a capitalist just leave me alone let me have my freedom. Don’t take my money.

Carmen: Here, here. 

Jordan: Agreed. 

Robert: What do I know about money? It’s the reason I’m in real estate. It’s because I use debt and don’t pay taxes. Legally. And if you’re paying taxes that means you have bad tax advice. 

Carmen: Yes, yes, I got it. Wow, well, okay so we understand and we’re on the same page with you there. Now, what investments do you think our guests…our viewers should get into from a real estate perspective in uncertain times? What if something God forbid happens or if there is a recession, what type of real estate do you think would be-

Jordan: Something that can stand through-

Carmen: Weathering the storm?

Robert: Well, the number one investment is your financial education. You know, because if you’re stupid, you’re going to lose your money. I don’t care what you invest your money in. So, when I talk to a poor person, I don’t care if they have a PhD. When I came back from Vietnam in 73 the first thing I started doing was taking–I mean  I hated school, but I liked learning about money so in 73 I started taking real estate courses, I took stock courses, I basically immersed myself in what’s called “financial education” but people think I’m a real estate guy. I’m not. I have over a billion dollars in debt in real estate. If you can understand that you can understand that I’m really an investor in debt and the more debt I have, I pay no taxes. 

Carmen: Interesting. 

Robert: So, the reason I was in Toronto with the Toronto Stock exchange is because I learned more about the stock market by taking three companies public. I took a Chinese company public and we struck gold and then I took a company from Argentina public, and I still have it, it’s making me millions and millions and millions of dollars. And then I took an oil company public out of Portugal and people said there is no oil in Portugal and I found out the hard way that there is no oil in Portugal. But that is how I learned, I learned by doing. The reason most people are not successful is they went to stupid school. They tell you don’t make mistakes. How in the world do you learn if you don’t make mistakes? How do you learn to walk if you don’t fall down? So everybody said they want the guarantee, they want the low risk and all that. I said you’re an idiot, you went to school. Don’t go to school, take real estate courses, take stock courses, take investment courses, hang out with rich people, don’t hang out with poor people who are highly educated. It’s really common sense when you think about it. My friends are all multi-millionaires. My best friend just sold his business for two billion dollars. 

Jordan: Wow. 

Robert: He never went to school. 

Carmen: Well and I will say, I totally get it but the majority of the people out there, they’re trained as you said to, you know, pay down their mortgage, invest risk-free. 

Robert: But how do you do that, that is the biggest load of crap I’ve ever heard. Even if you buy gold, the price of gold goes up and down. So if you bought gold at let’s say 2,500 an ounce, today it’s about 1,700 an ounce, you lost money. 

Carmen: Yep. 

Robert: There is no such thing as risk-free and all I’m saying, I said to you, I hated school but I never stopped studying and when markets crash, I am not kidding, as I am watching today, I don’t even know what today’s date is even, but I am so excited because it’s crashing, that means all of this bubble, the air is coming out of the bubble and now I’m going to get rich because all of the stuff that is crashing goes on sale. Just like Niemen Mark saying hey we have a 50% off in our shoe department and I know you two would be there. 

Jordan: We sure would. 

Robert: If Niemen Mark said guess what our shoe, we’re going to raise the price 100%, I’ll say no I’ll just wait but what happens is, idiots, when Niemen Mark raises their shoe prices by 100%, they’ll rush to buy some. Can you be that stupid? Yes, people are. It’s called FOMO – fear of missing out. 

Jordan: Yeah.

Robert: Okay so there is no such thing as risk-free and the thing is the best way to get rich is don’t do what idiots do and that’s why I’m constantly studying. 

Carmen: Now, what are you studying?

Robert: Markets. You know this guy Dave Ramsey in America, he says live debt-free. Are you nuts? You know Suzy Orman says cut up your credit cards. Are you nuts? How do you live without a credit card? You don’t understand what is called a monetary system, but I study, I understand the financial markets. That’s why I was in the Toronto Stock Exchange figuring it out. I said how are you guys ripping everybody off, how does a stock exchange rip everybody off and once I found out I said okay now I know how to play the game. You know Warren Buffet said best, if you’re in a poker game and you’ve been there for 20 minutes and you don’t know who the sucker is you’re the sucker.

Carmen: Robert, hold that thought. Awesome, interesting topic. We’ve got to go to break, we’ll be right back, don’t go anywhere. 


Jordan: Hi I’m Jordan and this is Carmen, welcome back to 30 Mins to Wealth. We’re so grateful to have Robert Kiyosaki on the show today and Robert you’ve been sharing some really interesting stuff with us today. Picking back up, I know you’ve invested all over the world and we love to hear your thoughts on Canada and the Canadian market. 

Robert: The biggest deal of my lifetime was what I just did on TSE. It’s in the green new deal. Toronto and Canada, you have some fantastically smart people, but your system is socialist. I’m a capitalist, I am not a Marxist, I’m not a socialist like most Canadians are. Okay. I am a capitalist, that’s why I hang out at VSE and TSE. That’s why I know Toronto so well. Okay so, understand I’m just shifting your attitude towards it if you’re looking for risk-free, it means you don’t know what you’re doing. That means I’m just going to sit here and take your money one day with something. I’m not going to steal it from you, you’re going to donate it to the market and that’s my message to people. So, you know YouTube has more programs as real estate courses, the stock course, and all that. I take them and I wouldn’t be living in fantasia, you know Walt Disney’s Fantasia. What if it talks about “ah we’re gonna get we’re gonna buy 100 million bitcoins and we’ll live happily ever after. Well, bitcoins are crashing today too. 

Carmen: Oh, so time to buy bitcoin? (Laughter)

Robert: But that’s what people are waiting for is me to give them a tip, okay so if you understand that so I’m encouraging all of you to listen to – your listeners to listen to your program, get educated, get smart but eliminate the words I want risk-free. There is no such thing and crashes are really really good times to get rich so I’m very excited, I’m happy. You know, unfortunately there are millions of guys, old guys like me, I am a baby boomer, I am 74 years old. Well, they’re wiped out. They are, you know what, you guys have RRSP, we have 401k. Yeah. You know they’re gonna get wiped out. But the reason I was on TRC Toronto Stock Exchange is I wanted to find out how people in the stock market rip people off and the same as in real estate. There are always crooks everywhere, you guys know that. So, if you actually can sit there and believe that risk-free, we can, we’re going to sing Kumbaya, that’s what I’m after is that attitude. Please understand, there is no such thing as risk-free. So, if I can leave you with that, the more you study, your chances of success go up, your risk goes down but there is no such thing as an investment that is risk-free. 

Carmen: Well, that’s uh, thank you for those words of wisdom. 

Robert: You’re looking at my chair in the ESP and the I. 

Carmen:  Yes.

Robert: Okay, I can’t believe you haven’t read that book because that’s the most important book. 

Carmen: I have read that book. I just want our viewers to know what this is. 

Jordan: Yes. 

Robert: The I is insider – I only invest from the insight. If you buy stocks, the RRSPs or whatever those things are, you’re outside and so my rich dad taught me: you’re either inside or you’re outside and one of my objectives was how do I get inside? How do I become an insider on the deal? Now, the one reason real estate is good is technically the moment I started with a little one-bedroom one-bath condo on the island of Maui, you know it’s a pretty nice island, I had the challenge: could I buy for no money? So this is back in 1973. So I put no money down, I bought this little one bedroom, one bath condo. I made 25 a month cash flow – that was called an infinite return because all I had in it was my brain power.  So, I was making $25 a month with no money, that’s called infinite. I have tremendous respect for Canadians, you know why? Because you’re a smaller country and all that, you’re resource driven and all this, but I’ve met some of the smartest brightest people there because it is harder either inside or you’re outside so if you buy an RRSP you’re outside, I want to be on the inside. I want to be putting the deal together but that takes years and years of struggle, practice, and study. But my first deal was only 18,000 on Maui and I bought it with a credit card and so every time I hear these people say cut up your credit cards, are you crazy? That’s how stupid they are. A credit card isn’t a problem, it’s the idiot holding the credit card. 

Carmen and Jordan: (Laughter)

Carmen: Oh my gosh, what an awesome perspective, I love it. It’s fresh and invigorating. 

Robert: Let me tell you, so I want everybody to listen to your program. You know what I mean? Because whether they agree or disagree with you…you could have good people and bad people on, but the most important piece of real estate…it’s six inches between your left ear and your right ear and that’s what you always want to be plowing, to be fertilizing, to be churning. You know that good ideas, bad ideas, I’m always on people because it’s between your left ear and your right ear that you’re rich or not rich. That’s all, just take control of that, control your thoughts. 

Jordan: So, you would say for those that maybe just want to get started into real estate just to educate themselves as much as possible and just get as much information as they can so that they’re empowered to start this endeavour?

Robert: I would say I’m on YouTube probably eight hours a day listening to different points of view. 

Jordan: Amazing. 

Robert: I am, yeah. I don’t necessarily disagree, I just keep an open mind, you know, I go…okay so Dave Ramsey or Suzy Orman, they say cut up your credit cards and I’m going, are you nuts? But I listen to what they have to say and I go, right. It’s if you cannot control your spending, cut up your credit cards and that’s good advice. If you just want-you don’t want to study, then an RRSP is perfect for you.  

Carmen: That’s inspiring, it’s very interesting. 

Jordan: Yes.

Carmen: Your perspective, it’s different. 

Robert: And it doesn’t mean I haven’t lost money, I’ve lost money from partners who are dishonest, I trusted them. So, start small and all that. What you’re looking for is a team. One of the problems I have with school is they tell you if you cooperate during test time, that’s called cheating. Well capitalists cheat all day long, I have the best accountants, attorneys, real estate guys, mortgage brokers, I am the most stupid guy on my team. I only hang out with smart honest people, but it takes a while to find them, you know? And so that’s what you’re searching for – is your team. You want the best accountant, the best attorney, the best real estate brokers, uh best mortgage brokers. 

Carmen: Well, thank you Robert for all your wisdom. Jeez, I wish I could, uh, hang out with you more often because you’re the smart rich honest guy and I’d love to learn more. 

Jordan: Um, very fascinating. 

Robert: That is the attitude. If people could take that away with them, like last night I had dinner with about 8 people and all we talked about was the rate on the market and reverse repo but for people who are interested in markets you’ve really got to know how the mechanisms work inside.

Carmen: It’s a whole different level of business

Robert: And so that’s why what you’re saying is the smarter you are the-its you’re opportunities go up but so does the risk goes up, which only once you have to be smarter – just want to be smarter and that’s why constant studying, take courses, you know take the options course in stocks, you know take real estate investment course, take finance courses. What most people do, a mistake they make, is that they get a real estate license. Well, a real estate license kind of handicaps you. So, I don’t have a license, which means I can do better inside deals.

Carmen: So, I know you have written many books and I think the “Rich Dad, Poor Dad” book and Cashflow Quadrant were really good and I think I would recommend that for anybody to read so maybe you can tell a little bit about the book and then we can have our viewers reach out to get some of these books, that would be awesome. 

Robert: Well again, yes, your most important asset is bringing your left ear and your right ear and the thing is this is the hard part, what they found out is if you’re raised in a poor family, you have it harder. So that’s why, I hate to say this, my poor dad, even though he had a PhD, he was a poor man. Good man, but he was poor. He always says I can’t afford it, I can’t do this. What do you think, I am made of money? And that’s where it starts, and then my rich dad always said never say I can’t afford it because that’s what poor people do. And I hear people saying I can’t afford it, I can’t do that and all that. Can’t is a four-letter word so use it carefully. Use it very very carefully because you know, I’m not religious either but as the bible says and the word became flesh and dwelt amongst us. So poor people make themselves poor with their mouths. I can’t afford that, you think I am made of money, oh the rich are crooked, the rich are evil. You know? Why does the government do something about it? You know they should just give me more money. Those are the wars of a poor person, that’s why they’re poor and the word risk, you see, the higher the risk, the smarter you gotta be. That’s all it means to me. So when I was getting ready to go to Vietnam, I started flight school in Florida and they shipped me to Camp Pendleton, California. And in Camp Pendleton, they put the guns on me. I realized, oh my god this is getting real and then I wind up in Vietnam as a carrier pilot and they start shooting at you. And all that meant let’s get smarter, get better. 

Carmen: Well thank you so much

Jordan: Thank you Robert for coming on and sharing some of your wisdom with us, it’s very refreshing. 

Carmen: And insightful.


Robert: And I’m very very sincere, I do more deals in Canada because you have some of the smartest people I’ve ever met there.

Carmen: Yes.

Jordan: Yeah.

Robert: There ain’t that many of them…gotta track them down.

Carmen: Yeah, track them that’s right, hang out with the smart people. 

Robert: You gotta find it, that’s the hard part. It’s like how do you marry the man or woman of your dreams? Well, you kiss a lot of frogs until you find the fairy princess or the fairy you know. I am just leaving with a closing line and it comes from Jack Nicholson, he played Colonel Jessup in a few bends starring Tom Cruise and all that and this is, you want the truth, you can’t handle the truth, and what you’re looking for is the truth but you gotta be able to handle it

Carmen: Yes, that’s right. 

Robert: So thank you so much for what you’re doing!

Carmen: Well, thank you for doing what you’re doing, this is an inspiration to me and everything you’ve said has really resonated with me and it’s put me, my thoughts, in a different place for sure. 

Jordan: For sure, yeah. 

Robert: It’s nice to speak to a mother-daughter team getting smarter, a very important role to have influencing women as well as men on getting smarter. 

Carmen: Yes, I like that.

Robert: The higher the risk, the smarter you’ve gotta get. 

Carmen: Okay.

Jordan: I love that.

Robert: So is the return. 

Carmen: Ohhh that’s awesome. Thank you so much.

Robert: Thank you guys.

Jordan: Thank you.

Carmen: Have a great day.

Jordan: If you’re interested in learning more about real estate investing, you can go to 30MinutestoWealth.com to see the rest of our episodes. 

Carmen: That’s it. Our 30 minutes are up. Go create wealth. 

S4 E15 – Investing in Canadian Agriculture

In this episode, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro meet with Agricultural Consultant, John Cameron, to discuss the very exciting topic of investing in farmland. John has an extensive background in the farming and agriculture sector, from growing up on and running a farm, to becoming a farm financing specialist and consultant.
As an experienced professional in this sector, John discusses how demand for farming in Canada has increased significantly in the past years along with recent trends that can create opportunity for investors. We dig into the details about how to evaluate farmland, current incentives and financing programs available, and last but not least, the return on investment investors can expect.
This is a very interesting episode about a perhaps overlooked real estate investment strategy that can yield substantial benefits for landowners, investors, and communities alike!

S4 E14 – Accounting Strategies for Real Estate Success

In this episode, Carmen and Jordan meet with Jason Gibbons, Partner of RLB Professional Chartered Accounts, to discuss important tax strategies when it comes to real estate investing.

As an experienced tax professional who caters to investors, Jason talks us through various structures of real estate ownership along with corresponding tax implications. He also shares some fantastic strategies that investors can utilize to accelerate their investment growth and offset taxation where applicable. This is an extremely informative episode that will guide you to evaluate your current investment structures in order to achieve optimal success in real estate.

RLB Chartered Professional Accountants
Website: www.rlb.ca
Email: jgibbons@rlb.ca

S4 E13 – The Reality Behind Real Estate

In this episode, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro meet with husband and wife investor team, Kaely and Alex Pal. Together, Kaely and Alex own and operate Pal Property Solutions which specializes in solving complex real estate matters for home buyers, sellers, and investors. Their core business activities consist of buying and redeveloping single or multi-family properties throughout Southern Ontario with a goal of rejuvenating neighbourhoods, providing safe, reliable housing, and encouraging home ownership.

Kaely and Alex talk us through how they got started in real estate investing and when they decided to transition their business into a full time operation. They share what criteria they look for before investing in a property, along with some of their recent case studies, success stories and setbacks. This episode sheds light on the many challenges that real estate investors can encounter and how to overcome these obstacles to ultimately become more successful, knowledgeable and empowered in business!

Pal Property Solutions
Website: www.palpropertysolutions.com

S4 E12 – International Real Estate Investing

In this episode, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro meet with real estate investor, Glen Sutherland. Glen is a Canadian who invests and manages a large portfolio of properties completely from abroad. He started his investing journey by purchasing ‘buy and hold’ rental real estate in local Canadian markets. After a lot of research, he learned of considerable benefits to investing in the United States such as more favourable laws, lower property taxes and a lower cost of entry south of the boarder.

Be sure to watch this episode to learn about Glen’s strategies when it comes to how he picks his markets, what he looks for in a property and how he manages risk from abroad. Glen talks to us about arguably one of the most essential aspects of owing property internationally- how he finds a trustworthy team to look out for his best interests when he’s not a local investor.

This is an information packed episode that offers great insight and knowledge on how to successfully own and manage properties from abroad.

Glen Sutherland
Website: glensutherland.com

S4 E11 – Investing in Cottage Country with Cottage Life Magazine

In this episode, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro meet with Editor of Cottage Life Magazine, Michelle Kelly to talk about recreational real estate investing and recent trends impacting home owners and investors in cottage country markets.

Michelle talks us through how recent shifts have accelerated certain market trends such as millennials and first time home buyers electing to purchase in secondary markets and rural areas where affordability is improved. We also dig into some success strategies when it comes to investing in and operating vacation rentals in cottage markets, along with unique tactics to consider when it comes to entering into the cottage market.

Be sure to watch this episode to learn how to create demand for your product amongst ever increasing competition, what you must be careful of, and how you can create positive and longstanding community relationships to ultimately increase your ROI.

Cottage Life Magazine

Once Upon A Stay
Website: www.onceuponastay.com
Instagram: once.upon.a.stay

S4 E10 – The Power of a Trusted Team in Real Estate

In this episode, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro welcome guest, Ashley Wilson co-founder of Bar Down Investments. Ashley joins us virtually from Pennsylvania and shares her inspiring story of how she and her husband left professional careers to become full time real estate investors. Previously Ashley was in clinical research and development in the pharmaceutical industry and her husband Kyle Wilson, a former NHL hockey player.

Together, they have built great success which Ashley attributes in part, to having a trusted team of professionals and property managers behind the realm. With a focus on investing in and improving apartment buildings, (now totaling 600 units and counting) within different US states, a strong team enables their investments to operate efficiently and lucratively.

Ashley shares some of her advice on how to manage properties from afar, how to find the right team, as well as how she picks her markets and has scaled her business. She is a strong advocate for women in real estate, a published author and a true powerhouse. Watch the full episode to absorb all the knowledge this inspirational investor has to share!

Bar Down Investments Website:

S4 E9 – Behind the Scenes of Real Estate Development: A Legal Perspective

In this episode, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro meet with special guests, Maria Durdan and Bilal Mirza of Simpson Wigle Law.

As experienced real estate lawyers, Maria and Bilal share with us the “must knows” when it comes to development. Development can be a complex but very rewarding investing strategy. Ensuring you have the proper team in place to look out for your best interests is critical to your success. Maria and Bilal walk us through the step by step process when it comes to finding and evaluating the development potential of a new property, all the way to closing on a purchase and managing the construction process.

Watch the full episode to learn what’s entailed behind the scenes when it comes to real estate development!

Simpson Wigle Law LLP
Website: www.simpsonwigle.com
Email: info@simpsonwigle.com

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S4 E8 – Investing in Pre-Construction Real Estate with Elite Developments

In episode 8, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro meet with Kim Kopyl, VP of Sales and Marketing at Elite Developments to discuss investing in pre-construction. Elite Developments has built its foundation with 50 years of combined building experience. They have attained a reputation in delivering premier residential and commercial properties throughout Ontario. Elite acquires locations for communities which improves the quality of life. They focus on providing homes with thoughtful amenities, spacious layouts, health & wellness, and leading innovative features throughout.
In this episode, we talk about some of the current real estate trends we are seeing in todays market, along with the many benefits to investing in pre-construction real estate from a primary residence standpoint or as a rental property. Kim talks to us about one of Elite Development’s newest projects, the Ambrose Condos in Brantford, Ontario. Watch the full episode to learn more about innovative concepts when it comes to creating, developing and purchasing pre-construction!
Elite Developments Website: https://elitemdgroup.com/
Instagram: @elitemdgroup
Ambrose Condos

S4 E7 – Build Better Relationships for Real Estate Success

In episode 7, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro meet with Greg Witz from Witz Education to discuss the importance of communication and relationships when it comes to success in business.

Greg is an entrepreneur, leader, podcaster, coach, mentor, father and CEO of Witz Education Inc, a training company committed to the ongoing development and training of today’s leaders. Greg’s sole mission in life is to challenge all of us to be better. In this episode, Greg teaches us some valuable strategies and tools when it comes to improving working relationships with others, managing a team, dealing with toxic relationships, along with how to become effective negotiators! (Especially when it comes to negotiating an offer).

We also dig into the power of mindset, and the key habits successful people tend to have in common. Be sure to check out the full episode for practical knowledge you can implement in your life and real estate dealings today!

Witz Education / Greg Witz
Website: www.witzeducation.com
Instagram: @gmwitz

S4 E6 – Large Scale Growth in Undervalued Markets

In episode 6, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro meet with real estate investor, Robby Clark!
From starting out as a childhood actor, to going bankrupt at a young age, Robby shares an inspiring story about perseverance and motivation. Robby has built an impressive real estate business (among others), that has closed on 60 properties in a one year time span, and that has completed more than 150 projects within 5 years.

Robby talks to us about his unique approach to real estate investing which involves targeting cities and neighbourhoods in Ontario that are undervalued. Robby and his team will go into these cities and force appreciation by purchasing and improving multiple properties within a close proximity to one another.

Robby also talks to us about the importance of mindset and how that has helped him accomplish his goals. Be sure to check out the episode to learn more about his impressive strategy and high volume approach to real estate investing!

To connect with Robby:
Instagram: @robbywclark

S4 E5 – Financial Planning for Success in Real Estate

In episode 5, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro meet with Shannon Lee Simmons, Certified Financial Planner , Chartered Investment Manager and founder of The New School of Finance. Shannon is widely recognized as a trailblazer in the Canadian financial planning industry and has published two bestselling books titled: Worry-Free Money and Living Debt-Free.⁣⁣⁣⁣
In this episode, ⁣Shannon shares her fun and fresh perspective when it comes to budgeting for your first home or investment property. Shannon talks us through some of the top debt mistakes Canadians are making and how to overcome these obstacles, along with how to fast-track for retirement using real estate investing strategies! ⁣⁣⁣

We’ve provided an extended version of our episode not seen on tv! Check out the full episode to see why we are so passionate about about financial literacy and planning for your future!

S4 E4 – Design to Profit – A Turnkey Approach to Development

In episode 4, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro meet with Alex Mascott and Aaron Lattimer from Linwood Homes to discuss a turnkey approach when it comes to development. Linwood Homes is a custom home builder specializing in cottages and recreational properties. They offer prefabricated materials, over 400 designs to choose from and will help you develop, customize and build your dream home, hassle free!

Learn how working with Linwood may be a favourable for option for investors to consider as a more efficient, time saving and cost effective strategy. We also dig into the exciting Bluffs Bay project on the gorgeous Georgian Bay, and where investment opportunities may present themselves based on current market trends.

Linwood Homes
Website: www.linwoodhomes.com
Instagram: @linwoodcustomhomes
Facebook: www.facebook.com/linwood.homes

Bluffs Bay
Website: www.bluffsbay.ca

S4 E3 – Development in Mobility Hubs

In episode 3, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro meet with investor, Carina Guzman to discuss her niche investment strategy when it comes to land development. Carina focuses on investing near Light Rail Transit (LRT) routes and in areas with significant levels of planned transit service (known as Mobility Hubs). Watch the full episode to learn of many benefits of investing near mobility hubs, along with the process on how begin your journey into land development.

S4 E2 – Canada’s Economic Outlook

In episode 2, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro meet with the Deputy Chief Economist of CIBC World Markets, Benjamin Tal. Benjamin is well-known for his ground-breaking published research on topics such as labour market dynamics, real estate, credit markets, international trade and business economic conditions.

We welcomed Benjamin Tal on the show to discuss the current economic outlook of Canada in a very unprecedented time. Benjamin shares his take on the real estate market in 2021 and beyond. He also sheds some light on where some real estate investment opportunities may present themselves in the current climate.

S4 E1 – The Highest & Best Use in Real Estate

For the first episode of Season 4, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro welcome guest, Ryan Carr on the show to discuss how to determine the highest and best use of a property.

Highest and best use helps investors determine the most reasonably probable and legal use of a property which results in the highest value of that property. Ryan shares some of the key factors he uses to evaluate highest and best use that considers the land itself, the structure of the real estate asset, and unique investor skillsets.

Watch this episode to learn how to maximize your return on your investment!

S3 E18 – Creating Your Market

For the Season 3 Finale, Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro welcome guest Andrew Hines, who is a real estate investor, builder, and podcast host to interview them on a recent restoration of a heritage building! This episode discusses how real estate investors can generate demand for their investment properties by creating a unique and desirable product that stands out from competition. Carmen and Jordan talk about the importance of marketing and branding rental properties, and how this translates into increased rental income and higher property valuations, all well using the case study of the magnificent “Oscar on Bold”.

To Learn more about The Oscar on Bold: https://theoscaronbold.com/

Andrew Hines:

Instagram: @TheAndrewHines
The Andrew Hines Real Estate Investing Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYGI…

S3 E17 – A Lifetime in Real Estate

Carmen and Jordan Campagnaro are joined by guest, GT Singh to share her 40+ years experience investing in real estate. GT shares her wisdom and knowledge from active investing, purchasing and holding rental properties, to passive investing in mortgage investments. GT is a true inspiration to us! She shares how she has utilized the earnings from her investments to create her own charitable foundation which provides scholarships for young women to attend college in India.

To Learn more about GT’s charity: http://www.beantagya.com/

S3 E15 – Beating the Market

Carmen and Jordan meet with guest, Sahil Jaggi to learn about his precise strategy when it comes to buying an investment property. Sahil targets properties in the Greater Toronto Area that are poised for accelerated growth. Be sure to watch the full episode to learn his trade secrets when it comes to selecting a region to invest in!

Sahil Jaggi
Instagram: @minkrealestate